Your podcast audience may not be what you thought it was

This episode will challenge a lot of assumptions you may have about your audience. If you’ve been losing sleep over whether you need to shift all your energy into video, or feel the pressure to keep up with multi-camera setups just to stay relevant, you’re going to want to pay attention to this one.
We’re sharing new research from Tom Webster and the Sounds Profitable team that uncovers who your most valuable listeners really are — and it’s not who you think.
Link to report: https://soundsprofitable.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Audio-Primes-2026-Webinar-Version.pdf
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00:41 - What are audio primes
04:29 - The importance of thoughtful ad placement
06:52 - What audiences think of AI voices
If you've been seeing all the recent propaganda that the future
Speaker:of podcasting is all in the video, and you've been
Speaker:sort of panicking about Whether you need a four camera setup, a ring light,
Speaker:and a face for, well, YouTube, I've got some
Speaker:news that might let you sleep a little bit easier tonight. The most
Speaker:valuable listening you have doesn't care what you look like, they care what
Speaker:you sound like. They care what you have to say. And they're
Speaker:significantly more likely to buy what you recommend and tell their
Speaker:mates about your show and still be listening two years from
Speaker:now.
Speaker:Welcome to Podcasting Insights. I'm Neil Valio,
Speaker:and we're going to talk about audio Primes. All right, first up,
Speaker:some context. Tom Webster and the team at Sounds
Speaker:Profitable have just recently published a piece of research
Speaker:that that should frankly be required reading for
Speaker:anyone making, commissioning, or advertising
Speaker:on any podcast. It's about a segment they've named the
Speaker:Audio Primes. One of the questions that we ask in the podcast
Speaker:landscape is thinking about all the podcasts that you consume.
Speaker:What percentage of them do you watch versus what percent you listen
Speaker:to? And 22% of podcast
Speaker:consumers say that they listen to three quarters
Speaker:or more of their podcast. That's roughly one in
Speaker:five. And on almost every metric that actually
Speaker:matters to a business, they outperform the average
Speaker:demographically. And this is going to be the bit that's going to really piss a
Speaker:lot of people on LinkedIn off. They're younger, they're not older,
Speaker:they over index in the 18 to 34 bracket. They
Speaker:over index in the 35 to 54 bracket. They
Speaker:under index at 55 plus. They've got more education,
Speaker:they're earning more cash. 9% of them have a household
Speaker:income of over 200 grand,
Speaker:versus 6% of the average podcast consumer.
Speaker:And this one is kind of interesting. They're more
Speaker:likely to have kids at home, which, if you think about that for more than
Speaker:a few seconds, makes perfect sense. Parents
Speaker:need their hands and eyes free, and audio
Speaker:is the only medium that delivers that. Now, here's where the
Speaker:research gets quite interesting, because it's counterintuitive.
Speaker:You'd assume that audioprimes listen because they don't like
Speaker:video, but that's wrong. They consume more video
Speaker:than average. They're significantly higher on YouTube,
Speaker:they're higher on Instagram Reels, and they're higher on
Speaker:TikTok. So they're not rejecting video. They're making an
Speaker:active, deliberate choice when they consume a
Speaker:podcast. You know, that specific deliberate act
Speaker:of consuming the content. They want it in their ears.
Speaker:And that distinction matters enormously because it means audio isn't the
Speaker:default for them, it's the preference. And preference
Speaker:is a much more powerful thing than than a default. Let's talk
Speaker:loyalty, because this is kind of where it gets fun.
Speaker:77% of audio primes listen to podcasts daily
Speaker:or weekly, 18 points higher than the average.
Speaker:72% use the same platform every time. Once
Speaker:they're on your platform, they're not hopping away. They follow
Speaker:fewer shows. In fact, 48% follow just one or two.
Speaker:But when it comes to those one or two shows, they're ride or die.
Speaker:It's all habit. It's part of their weekly rhythm. And my favorite
Speaker:stat from the whole report, which you can find linked
Speaker:from the episode description 22% of audio
Speaker:primes say they have never stopped listening to a podcast
Speaker:ever in their lives. Once they find the one they like,
Speaker:they just keep going with it. It's appointment to
Speaker:download, which should make every podcaster listening to
Speaker:my voice right now stop and breathe for just a second.
Speaker:You are building something that has the potential to become
Speaker:sticky if you do it right. And of course everyone
Speaker:wants to know about ads, because if you are monetizing,
Speaker:this is the bit you're going to need to know. Audio Primes don't really care
Speaker:about ad volume. They under index on too many
Speaker:ads as a reason to quit out of a podcast. What they do care
Speaker:about is relevance. They over index on
Speaker:the ads weren't relevant as a reason to quit a show.
Speaker:So translated into simple terms,
Speaker:audio Primes will happily listen to ads.
Speaker:They just want them to make sense to them and
Speaker:for the show, for the topic. Dumping a
Speaker:generic programmatic spot into a niche show is going to
Speaker:hurt this audience, whereas a thoughtful
Speaker:contextual host thread endorsement will probably land with them.
Speaker:So there's a lesson in there for anyone building a monetization strategy
Speaker:based on dynamic ad insertion alone. It's
Speaker:probably not going to work, particularly if you're farming that out
Speaker:to the likes of Libsyn ads or
Speaker:Acast ads. Now, the Sounds Profitable team brought
Speaker:in a real neuroscientist on all this, Alberto, who
Speaker:broke down what's actually happening in the brain when you're listening to a voice
Speaker:that you've heard before. And it comes down to three key things, all right? Number
Speaker:one, oxytocin, also known as the bonding
Speaker:hormone. It's what mothers produce when they're breastfeeding, and it's
Speaker:what you produce when you hear the voice of A podcast host that you listen
Speaker:to regularly. Number two, mirror neurons.
Speaker:These are firing up when you empathize with another human. When your favorite
Speaker:host sounds sad, your brain goes a bit sad. When they laugh,
Speaker:you smile. You are literally
Speaker:neurologically mirroring them. And point three,
Speaker:mere exposure. Now, this is the compounding effect that we talk about
Speaker:when it comes to showing up regularly. Consistency.
Speaker:Week after week, month after month, that familiarity
Speaker:accrues into trust. And trust in this space is
Speaker:the single scarcest resource on earth. So if
Speaker:you put all three of those together, you get what psychologists call
Speaker:a parasocial relationship. A one way bond where
Speaker:the listener genuinely feels like the host is their friend. And
Speaker:did you know audio creates a stronger parasocial
Speaker:bond than video does? Because video gives your brain too many
Speaker:things to focus on. You're looking at things, whereas
Speaker:audio strips it to voice and words. You're not
Speaker:watching someone, you're sitting with them. Or as
Speaker:Alberto in this webinar put it, a screen makes you a spectator.
Speaker:A voice makes you a friend. Which, frankly, I might get
Speaker:printed on a T shirt. We gotta address the elephant in the room here,
Speaker:AI because this came up in the research and it's relevant to the point as
Speaker:well. Audio primes really, really, really don't want AI generated
Speaker:voices. In fact, about half say they'd be less likely to keep
Speaker:listening if they found out their favorite show was AI
Speaker:voiced. Only 15% said they'd be more likely to keep listening.
Speaker:Video primes, which is those people who mostly watch, are
Speaker:far more open to synthetic voices, probably because
Speaker:they're being subjected to them all the time. With AI
Speaker:generated slop on TikTok and Reels, they've become
Speaker:desensitized to it. For those of us in the audio first world,
Speaker:that is a useful line drawn in the sand. Your audience
Speaker:came to you for a human, so don't feed them a machine.
Speaker:Okay, so what to actually do with this information? And let me turn all of
Speaker:this into something you can actually Action. If audio primes
Speaker:are your most valuable audience and the data is pretty
Speaker:unambiguous that they are, here's what the research
Speaker:is telling you to do. Number one, be consistent. Whatever your
Speaker:cadence. Weekly, fortnightly, monthly, be there. The mere
Speaker:exposure effect only works if you actually expose.
Speaker:So don't do what I did with this show and go silent for a month.
Speaker:In fact, it was more than a month. Show up. Do the recordings
Speaker:publish. Number two, be human. Your voice is literally your
Speaker:superpower. So don't outsource that to any AI software.
Speaker:Yeah, it's really impressive. What 11 labs can do. Use
Speaker:it as a backup. Don't lean on it. Point 3 Be relevant with
Speaker:your ads. Don't just take a paycheck. Ask whether the ad
Speaker:fits with your audience and read it with some
Speaker:thought behind it. Make sure there's alignment there. Point four
Speaker:don't obsess about video. Sure have a YouTube presence.
Speaker:That's fine. They are still saying it's the number one Discovery channel. Well,
Speaker:whether we like that or not, there might be some truth to it. It has
Speaker:a great search engine. But don't sacrifice the thing that
Speaker:makes audio work in pursuit of video metrics that don't really translate to
Speaker:loyalty anyway. Number 5 Nurture the word of
Speaker:mouth. Audio primes tend to recommend shows to their friends
Speaker:a 30 second if you enjoyed this, tell someone who'd like it.
Speaker:That's worth way more than most paid marketing. Point six
Speaker:Think about your listeners. Being parents, hands
Speaker:free, eyes free isn't a nice to have for them, it's a necessity.
Speaker:And it's a genuinely underserved market. Think about how your content
Speaker:can reach people where they are and how they consume. Thanks
Speaker:for listening. Send me your thoughts. You'll find me on LinkedIn. Or if you want
Speaker:to go to Podmastery Co and get in
Speaker:touch that way until the next episode. Good luck with your
Speaker:continuing journey towards pod mastery.
Speaker:Podcasting
Speaker:insights.







